NAME THAT STAMP!
From time to time I receive inquiries from viewers of this web site who want
help identifying a stamp they own.
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ITEM #2a:
Blue and White label with four letters and revalued from "2" to "4"
ITEM #2b:
Blue and White label with four letters and revalued from "2" to "5"
I owned item 2a until a few years ago, when I sold it on eBay.
I have been trying to identify it for at least twenty years.(!)
I acquired it many years ago from Al Peterson (aka The Rail Philatelist), who knew only that he got it as part of a collection of rail-philatelic material, so assumed it had a rail connection.
Here are details, and my analysis:
Pair of self-adhesive labels "on piece." Blue on white, four letters (see below). The size of each label is about 13 mm wide by 18 mm high. Pair of 2's stricken out with horizontal blue lines, new denomination "4."
The two letters on the left are N and L - I don't think there's any question about that. The two letters on the right are tricky, though. The large one could be an R or an A. I think it's an R, but I could be wrong. The smaller letter on the right could be an E or a C. I have a slight leaning towards E, because the cross bar of the R extends beyond the leg of the R to form the cross bar of an E. But it might be a C.
Combining all of those options in all reasonable ways, I get the following sixteen letter combinations:
NLAC, NLAE, NLRC, NLRE, LNCA, LNEA, LNCR, LNER, NCLA, NCLR, NELA, NELR, LANC, LRNC, LANE, LRNE
The only one of those that means anything to me is "LNER," for " London and North Eastern Railway."
I have asked the "experts" I know (Roger Riga and Bill Weinberger), and I posted an inquiry on the web site of the "The LNER Encyclopedia - Discussion and reference site for the London and North Eastern Railway"
(http://www.lner.info/).
NOW (2/10/2019) paraphilatelic maven Ray Petersen has come up with the second item, and this further analysis:
While recently browsing Alphabetilately I notice the small odd label in the
Name That Stamp section (item #2). I remembered that I used to have some of
those (or something similar) and wondered whatever happened to them.
Lo and behold, only a few days later, while rusting through some unsorted
stuff, looking for something else, I ran across them.
They are the same base stamp/label, but instead of an overprinted 4, mine have
the number 5. And it appears that mine (2 strips of three and a pair) were
originally a strip of 8. I have scanned them they way they most likely were
when joined. Looking at the scan, it becomes clear that the overprint is a
numeral, repeated 5 times, in a box - enabling 5 stamps to be cancelled or
overprinted at a time.
Mine have no gum, and do not really look like they ever had gum - the backs
are smooth and clean.
So, the good news is that some significant new information is added, but the
origin and use of these is still a mystery.
I thought they looked like they could be either:
The key to these stamps must be the cryptic monogram or monograms on the
stamps. My personal bet is NL RE.
I showed your post to a friend last night and he and I both had a nagging
feeling that they might be Dutch in origin. Nothing to base it on other than a
vague feeling that the first letter pair might be NL for Nederland.
I guess we will just have to wait and see if one turns up actually used on
some sort of document.
Ray
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ITEM #1: EAGLE with "1997", "T375", and fake PORT WASHINGTON, NY
postmark/cancel
I agree your stamp is a Cinderella, i.e. not a postage stamp, probably
created as some
sort of publicity for an event, but I have not seen it before, so I have sent inquiries to
other sources, and will let you know what I learn.
The cancellation is probably misleading. That could be a fake cancel, applied
as part of the event it advertised, or it might be a real postal cancel, but the Postal
Service didn't realize the stamp was not valid. Real US stamps always have at
least "USA"
on them, to designate the country, and almost always a denomination. There are some
exceptions, but those have other things to identify them.
The cancel does not look right, either, just the month and year. It should have a
full
date, and usually the time as well.
It could also be a test stamp - still a Cinderella, but a stamp produced by a stamp
printer for testing or training purposes.
I'll write again when I learn more.
1/16/2007 -
While I'm not absolutely positive about this, I'm pretty sure that I know the answer to
your question. I believe that these cinderellas are faux stamps created to enhance the
appearance of a bulk mailing to make it look important or official, e.g., like some kind
of Express mail. While I don't remember if I've seen this exact stamp before, I have seen
or had similar items. Note the resemblance to some of the express mail eagle stamps of a
few years back. I've seen similar stamps on contest related mailings and political
advertising. The pitch on the material contained therein usually stresses the need for a
quick response (perhaps before you read it too closely) and the envelope might say
something like Expedited Mail instead of Express Mail. This could all be confirmed if the
original cover still existed, but then there wouldn't have been a question. I suspect one
reason we don't see more of them is that most hit the wastebasket with most of the other
junk mail. Anyway, other than the two of us, who would care anything about
stamps that weren't
real ? As I said, I'm not absolutely positive, but I'm confident enough to say that if
I owned them, this would be how I would describe them in an offering for sale.
So that's pretty conclusive to me. These are exactly what Roger guessed,
fake stamps used on a Publisher's Clearing House mass mailing.
Their value would be minimal, since they were used in huge quantities,
so even though most were discarded, many remain.
Can anyone send me an image of a PCH envelope with these stamps on it?
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Usually I can answer them, occasionally
I have to consult some expert, but now and then the item in question remains
a mystery. This page is where I put the mysteries.
THE MOST RECENT ENTRY IS AT THE TOP.
If you can identify something shown here, or wish to contribute your own mystery,
please email me:
No luck so far.
Hi Bill,
SO.... the plot thickens. Can anyone else out there help?
A) Dues stamps - for an organization or trade union.
B) Savings or trading stamps (like S&H Green stamps).
So I looked through my stash of Danish dues stamps and savings/trading/rebate
stamps and discovered that while only some of them had a clear indication of
the issuing organization, they all had either a denomination, or a time
reference (such as year or month, etc).
1/15/2007 - MW wrote:
I have 6 stamps that are blue background, with a 3/4 flying eagle.
the local stamp collector said they were no good, he called them a Cinderella stamp.
Can you give me any info? no marking, but were canceled in NY.
My first reaction was that it was a privately printed stamp, perhaps used in connection
with some local event in Port Washington, NY, but an hour of Googling and digging led
nowhere,
so I replied as follows:
I sent a copy of the image to AskPhil, and got
this response:
While I cannot tell you what the item is, I can tell you it is not a postage stamp and
the red marking is not a postal marking.
Nice to know he agreed with my evaluation, but nothing new there.
I wrote Roger Riga,
whose encyclopedic knowledge of Cinderellas is second to none,
and he replied as follows:
That made sense to me, so I Googled for companies located in Port Washington, NY, and
guess what? It's the headquarters for Publisher's Clearing House!
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Revised -- 02/20/2019